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WDF? wrote:Just wanna say this investigation is still underway. Correction: Not anymore. Here's the final final final word on it. Since the first demo was posted, the evidence of hacking has been questionable at best, lag-related at worst. While some hackers might "play nice" to avoid a ban, MacBeth did it to dispute a ONE DAY ban, and throughout this has shown nothing but patience and respect, something I can't say about everyone. A few more demos have been provided, as well as privately provided evidence from MacBeth that in both my and WDF's minds completely exonerates him of any hacking in this instance.
Anyone can hold whatever opinions they want, but we are confident in our decision not call hacking in this case, and THAT DECISION IS FINAL. If you feel in the future he is hacking and can produce more conclusive evidence, you may bring it to us, but you WILL do so privately and not treat MacBeth like a criminal on the hunt. He is welcome to play on our servers until such time as more evidence proves something different from what we have decided here.
This decision is the END OF DISCUSSION on it, and we frankly will not tolerate any more disrespect. If the decision is that offensive to you, please feel free to play elsewhere in the future, but do NOT be a dick on the forums or servers and do not it argue us. If you do, the choice to play here or not will be taken out of your hands by us. ED_THE_WOLF, do not test us with even one more rude comment, I promise it'll be the end of it. If you can play respectfully, and this is for everyone, then by all means, game on. Enough time has been spent on this. Thank you for all your time. HolyJaw wrote:In the end, everything Endyss said.
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In light of this event, steambans is now active again on all WDFNews.com servers. If you follow the steps in the report abuse sticky on recording a demo for steambans, the demo will be forwarded on to the steambans crew. That way if the player is banned it will be a global steambans ban and there will be no question as to legitimacy of the complaint.  [13:58] TheSpaniard84: I have a kitty stuck to my rump [13:58] WhuTdufK: I suppose that's better than what's normally stuck to your rump.
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Ironic, I think, for there to be so much drama around someone known as " MacBeth".
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Rikaelus wrote:Ironic, I think, for there to be so much drama around someone known as "MacBeth".
Hehe...that is odd! I wonder if it will eventually play out the same? It's eerie...
Lol...i guess that would make me one of the witches?
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WDF? wrote:In light of this event, steambans is now active again on all WDFNews.com servers.
If you follow the steps in the report abuse sticky on recording a demo for steambans, the demo will be forwarded on to the steambans crew. That way if the player is banned it will be a global steambans ban and there will be no question as to legitimacy of the complaint. Just a comment on Steam bans.... Since the heavy update...theres been alot of lag on the servers, not sure if its because of the this mod, although the spikes appear to occur when the little message pops up. Also wondering if there is any way to run this without having it spam the shit out of us, like the rank, or the IP location mods weve started running. Makes it hard to hold conversations over chat when your chat window can only show two of these at a time......... Suffers from the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency — nay — the very existence of George W. Bush
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I'll see what I can do about the spam... not sure about the lag. [13:58] TheSpaniard84: I have a kitty stuck to my rump [13:58] WhuTdufK: I suppose that's better than what's normally stuck to your rump.
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Thank you Endyss, SNoB, and WDF? for taking your time and effort to flesh this out. I think this is a very good example to all those out there in {pDs} land. The leaders and a concerned player took the time from fun/life/whatever to seriously consider a case that was possibly affecting all that play on these servers. Even in the face of doucheness, they managed to stay pretty professional and make a logical, rational, fair decision. Thanks again guys! Thank you for proving that this community is great and there are good people committed to its longevity. How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
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ED_THE_WOLF_ wrote:
We got reviewing the demos and the higher ups found him (Macbeth) "suspicious." Here is my closing remarks and the "higher ups" response.
ED_THE_WOLF_: Listen, this is my closer. think his ban should stay. You admins are not listening to reason. Four people saw him and spectated him to watch his hacks and unamimously called him out. Also, you do not know how the game is played. You do not know the about the heavy spin down time or running slower at the end of the match. And finally, you don't trust your own people! Three of your own people watched him and banned him. I do not think I will continue to play at Tempest servers. Thank you for reviewing this case. I hope in the future you are more inclined to listen rather than assert your power and push the good, honest players out of the game. When hackers cheat, they can be dealt with efficiently and in a timely manner. Here, the hacker is gieven a free pass.
{pDs} WhutDuFuK?: Don't let the door hit you, fuckhole.
I can feel the love here. Thank you to all those that made tempest fun. You know who you are.
--The Wolf
Also, this is rather funny.
{pDs} WhutDuFuK?: I've been banned from two dozen servers for cheating
ED_THE_WOLF_: nice to know
lol time to rub salt in open wounds... Ed the wolf just took first place in the stats.... I guess he changed his mind. Congrats regardless. [13:58] TheSpaniard84: I have a kitty stuck to my rump [13:58] WhuTdufK: I suppose that's better than what's normally stuck to your rump.
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