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Highly Innapropriate Conduct on Tempest #3 Options
ErkDog
#1 Posted: : Sunday, June 08, 2008 12:24:40 PM
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I am going to state nothing but the  facts and provide a chat log with no editorializing for review by server administrative staff:

Saber and I were trying to get Tempest 3 going.

Nat was on the server.

Crossfire then joined.

There was another random newbie on my team.

So it was Saber + Nat against Me + random newbie.

Saber and Nat rolled us twice with little to no effort.

Crossfire joined Saber and Nat's team.

Chat log is as follows:

{pDs} ErkDog [RRRR] :  lame crossfire, way to keep teams even
{pDs} Saber :  it is even
{pDs} Saber :  i fails
Crossfire :  as opposed to..
Crossfire :  spectating?
{pDs} ErkDog [RRRR] :  I don't know joining red and evenign them?
{pDs} Saber :  :/
Crossfire :  i just wanted to be on Nats team
nat :  teams are even wtf are you talking about
{pDs} ErkDog [RRRR] :  yeah teams were so even before crossfire joined
Crossfire :  Just being a little bitch I supose :(
{pDs} ErkDog [RRRR] :  thats why you and saber were rolling us
nat :  :\
Crossfire :  I had no idea
Crossfire :  Its not like I was keeping tabs on what was going on before I joined..
{pDs} ErkDog [RRRR] :  no reason to needlessly curse at people either
nat :  srsly why the stick up your ass who cares
{pDs} ErkDog [RRRR] :  I'm posting your innapropriate language on the forum
Crossfire :  You were being a bitch, so I accurately described you as one.
nat :  w/e
Crossfire :  See, being even more of a little bitch.
{pDs} Saber :  just stop and play -_-
{pDs} ErkDog [RRRR] :  you reap what you sow gentleman
{pDs} ErkDog [RRRR] :  remember that
nat :  um you started it
nat :  and considering your a recruit
Crossfire :  OMFG OMFG TEAMS ARE UNEVEN OMG EVEN TEAMS
Crossfire :  BTICH BITCH COMPLAIN COMPLAIN
{pDs} Saber :  just stop -_-
{pDs} ErkDog [RRRR] :  I didn't start anything, you were the ones who started cursing at people and calling names
{pDs} Saber :  problem is solved


] status

hostname: The Tempest #3 CP MAPS/HLSTATSX-WDFNews.com
version : 1.0.2.9/14 3477 secure 
udp/ip  :  69.46.35.7:27015
map     : cp_lazytown_br1 at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z

# userid name uniqueid connected ping loss state
# 1183 "{pDs} Saber" STEAM_0:0:16943767 13:05 115 0 active
# 1189 "{pDs} ErkDog [RRRR]" STEAM_0:1:716805 05:11 133 0 active
# 1185 "nat" STEAM_0:0:12663791 09:31 118 0 active
# 1187 "Crossfire" STEAM_0:1:1284066 07:13 105 0 active


Thank you for your consideration into this matter.

Matt
Yargh
ErkDog
#2 Posted: : Sunday, June 08, 2008 12:29:40 PM
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Crossfire :  So erk, you report me?
{pDs} ErkDog [RRRR] :  I posted on the forum, yes

nat :  gj hope your happy now
Crossfire :  Sweet
Crossfire :  So you're a really big douche after all
{pDs} ErkDog [RRRR] :  guess I get to make a follow up post now...
Crossfire :  You said unwarrented. I called you a bitch because you were bitching. WArrented. I called you a douche because you reported war
{pDs} Saber :  just stop -_-
Crossfire :  rented swearing
Crossfire :  thus, it was warrented that I called you a douche.
{pDs} ErkDog [RRRR] :  care to add anything else now, save me the trouble of alt-tabbing a 3rd time?
Crossfire :  No, I'll wait till after.
Crossfire :  Oh wait
Crossfire :  You give PDS a bad name.
Crossfire :  add that please.
{pDs} ErkDog [RRRR] :  lol sure
Yargh
ErkDog
#3 Posted: : Sunday, June 08, 2008 12:46:40 PM
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Crossfire :  Anyone with a little common sense will realize that you were at fault, and the conduct was appropriate.
{pDs} ErkDog [RRRR] :  there is never cause for cursing and calling names
{pDs} Saber :  i have to look at console to see
Crossfire :  Right
Crossfire :  The scouts call people dumbasses in their emotes
Crossfire :  is that unwarrented too?
nat :  imo fine shouldnt have said it in that way but i still think you got all bent out of shape over something as like small as
Crossfire :  "Get on the point Dumbass"
nat :  'team balance'
Crossfire :  OMG HE HURT MY FEELIGNS
{pDs} ErkDog [RRRR] :  I didn't get bent out of shape
Crossfire :  You did
{pDs} ErkDog [RRRR] :  I said teams were uneven, thats all, and I was immediately cursed at
Crossfire :  You bitched.
Crossfire :  The act of bitching = being a bitch
Crossfire :  HENCE
{pDs} Saber :  just cause the scout says Dumbass doesn't mean we cant enforce the rule to no swearing
Crossfire :  My calling you a bitch = accurate.
nat :  but you called him specifically
Crossfire :  I stand by what I said
Crossfire :  You're a douche, a bitch, and an embarassment to pDs.
{pDs} ErkDog [RRRR] :  doesn't matter who I blamed for unbalancing teams, the response was highly inappropriate
{pDs} Saber :  but you did diss members of this server
{pDs} Saber killed Elandriel with sniperrifle.
Crossfire :  I call it how I see it
{pDs} ErkDog [RRRR] :  and it doesn't matter if I'm a member, recruit, or entirely unaffiliated with pDs
{pDs} Saber :  it does
{pDs} Saber :  if the other sees it negatively or positively depends on the votes
Crossfire :  You're an embarassment to the game then, if you think that my calling you a bitch, which you are, means you can go run to mommy
Crossfire :  and complain
Crossfire :  and get me banned
Crossfire :  You are.
Crossfire :  A little bitch.
Crossfire :  I continue to support that position.
{pDs} ErkDog [RRRR] :  and it is entirely my perrogative to copy and paste your inappropriate language
Crossfire :  Little. Bitch.
Crossfire :  Fuck you.
{pDs} ErkDog [RRRR] :  lol
Crossfire :  Get me banned, I really don't give a fuck anymore.
Crossfire :  Please do it.
Crossfire :  And in which case, I wouldn't want to paly on these servers anymore
Crossfire :  With little bitches as recruits.
Crossfire :  Post it, go please do it
{pDs} Saber :  thats the thing that you shouldnt be doing...
Crossfire :  Get me banned.
Crossfire :  I don't really care anymore
Crossfire :  I will leave, and I won't play here anymore, and my life will be no different because of it.
Crossfire :  beyond my not having to play with motherfucking bitches.
Koopa :  lolol
{pDs} Saber :  just leave then...
Crossfire :  Good day to you Sir, and good day to Tempest.
Crossfire :  Saber, was an honour playing with you, ErkDog, Go DIAF please.
Yargh
Crossfire
#4 Posted: : Sunday, June 08, 2008 12:48:24 PM
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I stand by everything i said, and everything that may have been said afterwards and may be posted after my reply.

Erkdog (AKA Little Bitch) complained about the teams being uneven, in a very Bitchy tone. I called him a bitch, he reported me, and well, it got me quite bent out of shape, that a reputable organization such as pDs, would affiliate themselves with a character who a: Bitches, then b: goes to the forum and complains about being called out about it.

I then, out of quite blind rage, said how displeased I was with his actions, and because of them, am no longer going to be playing on the server. I have been a relatively regular member playing on the Tempest servers, and prior to this incident, have never had a problem. If people like ErkDog, someone who is a [RRRR] of your guild is any light of the direction your servers are turning, then simply put, I do not want to play on them anymore.

Once more, I stand by everything I said. I regret none of it. If this gets me banned, so be it. ErkDog, once more, you are a little bitch.

It was an honour playing with most of you, best of luck in your endeavors.

-Crossfire.

ErkDog
#5 Posted: : Sunday, June 08, 2008 12:48:29 PM
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Oops, I just now saw the abuse forum, sorry I didn't post this there >.<
Yargh
Crossfire
#6 Posted: : Sunday, June 08, 2008 1:00:54 PM
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Oh, and he called me lame first. If we're gunna have the "Well he started it" ordeal.
ErkDog
#7 Posted: : Sunday, June 08, 2008 1:08:28 PM
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Actually, I said it was lame that you joined that team, not that you were lame...

besides... I think saying an action is lame, and calling someone a bitch are a far cry from one another...
Yargh
Stefi
#8 Posted: : Sunday, June 08, 2008 2:05:56 PM
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The way i see it Erkdog you were looking to argue starting out the first sentence as "lame Crossfire, way to keep the teams even." Thats lame, assuming someone knows what was ahppening before they joined a team is lame. I would have asked one of them to switch and if they didnt i would have went spectator and forced autobalance or quit the game. Besides all of that i find it Ironic that you are complaining of other peoples behavior, i find you Offensive with your "Hi Faggots" all the time.  I am probably a minority in my opinion but i dont care, i just dont see you have any right to say shit about someone else when you are worse imo.
ErkDog
#9 Posted: : Sunday, June 08, 2008 2:46:12 PM
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I don't recall ever saying "Hey Faggots" but its possible I have... furthemore, I'm positive I never directed it at you.... 

additionally, I didn't know that it bothered you for me to joke around with other people ...................................

Since I am now aware of it I won't do it any more...

I've certainly never addressed you as anything other than 'Frags'

I was not trying to start an argument I was simply stating that teams were uneven.  And lets assume for a minute that I -was- trying to start an argument... (which I wasn't)  I wasn't the one cursing and calling people names...

I only call people names in jest, that I know... and that know I'm kidding... I don't juts run around calling people names because of comments they make on the server...
Yargh
Splinter
#10 Posted: : Sunday, June 08, 2008 3:02:39 PM
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Gentlemen please, arguing over lollipops will solve nothing. Clearly a problem brews and it will be solved accordingly without the chaos. Ill run through the logs before proceeding.

ahhhh_crap wrote:
no, splinter has ethics and whut has emotions
Razor
#11 Posted: : Sunday, June 08, 2008 3:10:55 PM
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Erkdog I think you are generally a pretty cool guy.  Based on the post this was uncool.  I was not on the server so I do not know the context of the conversation so I will leave my comments to this:  Semi-negative mark against pDs.  It should be dropped and forgotten now.



ErkDog
#12 Posted: : Sunday, June 08, 2008 3:16:34 PM
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What was uncool Razor? and how is this a 'mark against pDs' ? 

I must be confused....
Yargh
WDF?
#13 Posted: : Sunday, June 08, 2008 3:29:10 PM
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I think the most disturbing thing about this who ordeal is the complaining about the teams.

From what I gather there were four or five people in the server. One team was beating your team because you had a "random noob."

You then went on to complain that because your team was getting rampaged that the teams were unfair. There's no way to determine that. The game auto balances teams. We don't have a clan-stacking rule. Just because you were unlucky in team selection does not make it the fault of our other players.

Furthermore, what troubles me is that because you were losing, and because you were on the losing team, you chose to throw some sort of internet enforcement tantrum and report the players on the other team. What? Why?

For language? Please. Give me a break. The way I read this, you antagonized them because you weren't getting your way and it degenerated into a shit storm.

Please accept my apologies for this, Crossfire. This is not the way we like to have our name represented.


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ErkDog
#14 Posted: : Sunday, June 08, 2008 3:36:45 PM
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You have got to be kidding me...

1) There is a clan stacking rule.  The server spams it in those annoying little messages all the time.

2) There sure as hell is a way to determine if teams are uneven... If one team beats the other team on a cp map in less than 30 seconds 3 times in a row... THE TEAMS ARE UNEVEN. 

3) I didn't throw a tantrum because I was on the loosing team... I reported Crossfire because he cursed at me which was uncalled for.  I don't curse and disrespect people because of comments they make on the server.  I said it was lame that teams were unfair and he joined the winning team... which it is lame... because its clan stacking which -IS- against the rules.
Yargh
ErkDog
#15 Posted: : Sunday, June 08, 2008 3:41:28 PM
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And for the record, you don't have to worry about me 'misrepresenting' your little group any more...

I'll be damned if I sit around while people have the hubris to tell me I'm wrong for getting cursed out when I complained about a rule that the owner of the servers doesn't even know is a rule on his own servers...

I have withdrawn my application to pDs.
Yargh
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