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[Vdus] Bike admin abuse Options
Guest
#1 Posted: : Saturday, December 08, 2007 12:23:32 AM
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Guy is kicking people without warning and threatening permabans. Just my 2 cents. thx for the cool servers.
WDF?
#2 Posted: : Saturday, December 08, 2007 12:25:14 AM
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Can we get some more info on this situation?


[13:58] TheSpaniard84: I have a kitty stuck to my rump
[13:58] WhuTdufK: I suppose that's better than what's normally stuck to your rump.
Bike
#3 Posted: : Saturday, December 08, 2007 12:35:54 AM
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This is 3MP, I am talking to him right now.  WDF?, contact me for more information.

{pDs} Lead Salad: bike why did you change your name
Jessica343: so I can get heals
{pDs} Lead Salad: oh damn good idea
{pDs} Lead Salad has changed their name to {pDs} Lead Salad (is a girl)
Jessica343: hahah
WDF?
#4 Posted: : Saturday, December 08, 2007 12:46:39 AM
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I checked the logs. Yeah, you didn't get a warning before the kick this time.

Your post here makes it sound like he's on a kick rampage.

Anyway, this isn't the first time I've heard about you starting shit with other players.

My advice to you is to cool it, or we'll just rid ourselves of you.


[13:58] TheSpaniard84: I have a kitty stuck to my rump
[13:58] WhuTdufK: I suppose that's better than what's normally stuck to your rump.
Guest
#5 Posted: : Saturday, December 08, 2007 12:55:36 AM
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I just come to the tempest servers to play with my friend {PDS} warmachine and i get hassled nonstop for being honest. Admins constantly try to control the server with high handed threats as opposed to actual common sense and maybe a warning every once in a while. You guys need admins that actually admin the server instead of kicking people based on game playing emotion. Just because you get dominated all day long by people, dont be bitter and start kicking good players.

WDF?
#6 Posted: : Saturday, December 08, 2007 12:57:32 AM
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You're getting kicked because you continuously run your mouth, make blanket accusations, and start shit with other players.

Consider this your warning.


[13:58] TheSpaniard84: I have a kitty stuck to my rump
[13:58] WhuTdufK: I suppose that's better than what's normally stuck to your rump.
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#7 Posted: : Saturday, December 08, 2007 1:01:23 AM
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You are getting all this info from heresay, Why are you being so harsh to me and I don't even know who you are? You even said i was kicked without warning yet you continuously bombard me with down looking remarks. I don't understand what I did to bring such hatred.
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#8 Posted: : Saturday, December 08, 2007 1:13:33 AM
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I get all my info from the detailed reports my admins post or send to me via chat programs. I then painstakingly review all relevant game logs and admin logs. The I ask a variety of people to give me their impression on the given situation. I stand by my admins always. They are hand selected and voted on by the admin team. They are well familiar with our rules. They can make mistakes. Depending on the mistakes they make, they can be removed. I am very mechanic in my order of operations in terms of dealing with a variety of players.

I own these servers, nice to meet you.

You know exactly what you're doing. I've dealt with 50 or so players like you. You act like a jackhole in the servers, then when admins comment about your behavior (one of the server rules is "Don't be a dick") you start into a campaign to turn the whole situation around on the admin and call it a power trip and that you're being abused.

Then you come here with the sole intention of getting one of my most trusted admins in trouble by making a post making it sound like he's kicking tons of people for no reason, when in fact he only kicked you.

Are you familiar with the term "cumulative effect"?

Basically, all your shit piles up over time until eventually we're just tired of you.  That is what we're dealing with at this very moment.

In your defense, however, in THIS situation you weren't warned properly. I have spoken to Bike. However, our admins are people, not robots. They make mistakes from time to time (not that kicking you was a mistake after reading the logs).

You bring the atmosphere of the game down with your negative bullshit and I'm not going to stand for it much longer.

If you want to keep pushing the issues I can go through all the server logs and cite every single one of your asshole moments if you'd like... but  that's going to take me an hour or so to sift through the logs, and I it might solidify my opinion of you.


[13:58] TheSpaniard84: I have a kitty stuck to my rump
[13:58] WhuTdufK: I suppose that's better than what's normally stuck to your rump.
WDF?
#9 Posted: : Saturday, December 08, 2007 1:17:30 AM
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Let me rephrase my statement.

Your excessive trash talking is getting on peoples nerves.


[13:58] TheSpaniard84: I have a kitty stuck to my rump
[13:58] WhuTdufK: I suppose that's better than what's normally stuck to your rump.
endyss
#10 Posted: : Saturday, December 08, 2007 3:12:05 AM
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Guest wrote:
You are getting all this info from heresay, Why are you being so harsh to me and I don't even know who you are? You even said i was kicked without warning yet you continuously bombard me with down looking remarks. I don't understand what I did to bring such hatred.

I just GOTTA chime in since you decided to take a "legalistic" angle with your final argument...

It's called hearsay, and it's only prohibited (with certain exceptions) in a court of law. On these servers, WDF? is the judge that's free to craft his own rules of evidence, and to continue the analogy, admins are like the police force. He may make the decision to listen to what an admin says you were saying (hearsay, alright, but so what), but in a courtroom, a he-said-she-said between a criminal suspect and a police officer will almost always come down in favor of the officer. Why would it be any less here?

And given that it seems WDF? has plenty of access to non-hearsay evidence of your conduct, your argument doesn't really hold a lot of water, does it?



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Guest
#11 Posted: : Saturday, December 08, 2007 1:18:23 PM
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I just want to demonstrate the difference between a player admin and a nonadmin player, If i called a player who wasn't admin a "1 class wonder", it's just stupid lil trash talk that goes with first person shooter video games and nobody really cares. In this case, I said this to a player admin who didn't identify himself and was immediately kicked without warning.

As for calling me an asshole, that is just uncalled for. You even said your admin is human and makes mistakes,  but why am I being nitpicked for little shit? It truely is sad when admins try to overcontrol people, the best admins are never seen or heard. If you came at me like a civilized human being instead of slinging insults around this wouldn't have even been an issue. I am a regular on all 3 servers, I play to relax and have fun. Am I allowed to talk a little shit or get upset when I die? It really seems like you guys are acting as if you are perfect and omnipotent, I mean seriously endyss, why are you trolling my posts with spelling corrections and defintions?

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#12 Posted: : Saturday, December 08, 2007 1:30:36 PM
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Guest wrote:

I just want to demonstrate the difference between a player admin and a nonadmin player, If i called a player who wasn't admin a "1 class wonder", it's just stupid lil trash talk that goes with first person shooter video games and nobody really cares. In this case, I said this to a player admin who didn't identify himself and was immediately kicked without warning.

As for calling me an asshole, that is just uncalled for. You even said your admin is human and makes mistakes,  but why am I being nitpicked for little shit? It truely is sad when admins try to overcontrol people, the best admins are never seen or heard. If you came at me like a civilized human being instead of slinging insults around this wouldn't have even been an issue. I am a regular on all 3 servers, I play to relax and have fun. Am I allowed to talk a little shit or get upset when I die? It really seems like you guys are acting as if you are perfect and omnipotent, I mean seriously endyss, why are you trolling my posts with spelling corrections and defintions?



Blah blah blah... just get over it. ffs.
Its not hard:
You join the server.
You play and have fun.
Don't start shit, there wont be shit.
You leave to come back another day for more fun.

Everybody wins!
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#13 Posted: : Saturday, December 08, 2007 1:49:32 PM
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Guest wrote:

I just want to demonstrate the difference between a player admin and a nonadmin player, If i called a player who wasn't admin a "1 class wonder", it's just stupid lil trash talk that goes with first person shooter video games and nobody really cares. In this case, I said this to a player admin who didn't identify himself and was immediately kicked without warning.



what you are describing could also be termed verbal abuse. we dont allow excessive shite talking like that purely because it can be misconstrued (and usually is) so if you dont subscribe to our philosphy perhaps you would be better off on a server that basically enforces nothing... i'm sure there are loads of them out there.

our admin recipe is successful, we've had dozens come here and tell us how good the servers and you are the first to pretty much be so outright critical of them. I don't think we'll be changing our policies on your recommendations so like it or lump it.
yeah, i'm a cranky 'oul fucker. deal with it.
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#14 Posted: : Saturday, December 08, 2007 1:57:51 PM
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Smoke a bowl, drinks a pint, cook that black tar...all parties. Dang it!  Just go shoot someone and relax.


endyss
#15 Posted: : Saturday, December 08, 2007 2:17:53 PM
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Guest wrote:

Am I allowed to talk a little shit or get upset when I die? It really seems like you guys are acting as if you are perfect and omnipotent, I mean seriously endyss, why are you trolling my posts with spelling corrections and defintions?

Because your point in harping on the "hearsay" was baseless, and the spelling fit the mold nicely.



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