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My electronic toilet is full of shit again. I seriously can't believe anyone having more PC problems then me right now. Current set up - get bsod errors left and right. can't run absolutely no games what so ever without having the system die after 1 second of trying to run anything other then firefox. test set up - got a fresh install of winxp (stfu bout me not having w7) on a different HD, on there I get absolutely no bsod errors but the PC restarts trying to do anything internet wise. Games cause PC to restart with no errors, going on firefox/internet explorer causes a restart, again no errors. running a geek squad scan of my PC causes it to restart, with yet again no errors. All with no bsod or errors present after reboot. so what the fuck now? srsly this PC is driving me insane. It was stable for about 3 months when shadow sent me a mobo/cpu/ram replacement. After 3 months of a smooth run games started to crash more often. then my graphics started fucking up constantly, then all this bsod bullshit kept popping up. now even after a fresh install i can't have the damn thing run longer then 1 second trying to boot up anything. Ive had less problems on my first PC, granted it had some harsh failures but compaired to this 2nd PC of mine its nothing. Countless software failure, my original mobo fried, 2 gfx cards useless, even the 2 newer ones or at least 1 of them is started to fail with only 1 year and a half which is bullshit. And now this shits happening. At this point I don't know if I got 2 faulty HD's since both show different cases of problems. I got 2 more HD's from my first PC 1 has a windows install but the HD is so old I have to replace my dvd-drive with the HD. I don't know if trying it would change anything. Oh and to top it all off my widescreen TV died, the fucking lamp broke wtf? Am I srsly the only person on this earth having so much difficulty with electronics? My MP3 MD player although still working the buttons on it don't register half the time. I push a button and it does something completely different 75% of the time. Ive had to buy over 10 mice for my PC as the right click seems to always break, even my current fancy mice I got from tripbam. my router the pos anytime i try to use it my internet fails CONSTANTLY and I have to unplug and replug the fucker just to get internet again every hour or so srsly? my stereo system is on the fritz, the CD tray is starting to fail. Its already had its 2nd problem since I got it the first being 1 of the 5 speakers was failing but got it to work again, 2nd was the CD tray would refuse to eject. My first home theater system had 1 high end quality speaker blow out after only 1 year and it wasn't even overly used or put on very high volume. My PS1 is starting to fail alot not that I use it much at all but when I do it freezes up. My N64 is on life support, can't run anything on that without it having to crash with everygame lasting either seconds or minutes. 1 of the 2 cable boxes I have is a pos, it keeps shutting off every now and then and its srsly annoying when watching something, and its technically 2 boxes that went faulty as the first one we got did the exact same thing but we had it replaced, which now its doing the exact same thing. Lastly and im sure not THE last thing to go wrong is my last PC monitor completely died, wouldn't turn on anymore. So yeah the electronic world is against me. 50% of this stuff has barely lasted a couple of years when it's ment to last a LONG time even when its high end brands. I understand electronics have a shelf life but for me everything either starts breaking right away, is faulty, or breaks right after the warranty expires. ok </rant> but honestly whats wrong with my PC now? My brain can't even process anymore as to what to do as I'm always getting hit with different problems and I can't seem to solve about 10% of them this being one of the 10%.  ahhhh_crap wrote:no, splinter has ethics and whut has emotions
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Have you checked your temps? This sounds like something is overheating. And shitty with all your electronic crap going wrong. Jeeps don't get stuck, they just take breaks. TripleBam wrote:That's the most spastic fucking pissing match I've ever seen. Good god.
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Temp is normal on everything. cpu not even reaching 60 degrees. If it was overheating it shouldn't be popping up BSoD errors. At least with the 1st hard drive. 2nd one I don't even know, it instantly restarts even If I just turned it on after a few seconds so it couldn't be overheat. ahhhh_crap wrote:no, splinter has ethics and whut has emotions
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Video card? Not sure if the problems actually lead there, but it sounds like hardware problem with me and it's probably the easiest to rule out if you have onboard graphics you can switch to for testing.
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Since I use 2 Ive already tried to alternate between them. No luck. ahhhh_crap wrote:no, splinter has ethics and whut has emotions
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Splinter wrote:Since I use 2 Ive already tried to alternate between them. No luck. Hmm. What's your RAM setup? How much, and how many sticks? My next suggestion would be--if you have multiple sticks--to try cycling through individual ones and see if you can identify one that's causing the problems. Of course this test is somewhat reliant on the notion that there are fewer bad ones than the total you have.. else they could all be bad and you wouldn't know it for sure. If the problem ends up falling to the motherboard/CPU... well... no way to process-of-elimination them unless you happen to have another compatible motherboard and/or CPU around. Edit: Oh, and with regards to the video cards... if you have on-board I'd still encourage trying that. If that were to work then you might have identified the problem being around the PCIe slot the graphic cards would go in. Also, can you elaborate your harddrive setup? You said you needed to swap out your CD drive... does that mean you're on a PATA (not SATA) harddrive? Not sure if the answer is all that super useful, but the more we know, the better.
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1 main hard drive for windows install and a bunch of small programs runs at 10,000 rpm's 2nd main hard drive mainly for game installs only @ 7200 rpm's Both SATA 3rd drive is a USB 1 terabyte that I mainly use for storage or crap I'm gonna burn eventually if I ever get a stable system again. 4th and 5th HD's from the 1st PC are PATA but only 1 of these has a windows install Mobo is a P5N-SLi 570 Intel Edition CPU is a Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 @ 1.86 GHz Ram 2 Gigs with 2 sticks 1 gig each, DDR2 Video cards - 2x nVidia 9500 GT BFG Running on SLi (currently disabled) SATA HD's are both Western Digital. And no I don't have an oboard gfx card. ahhhh_crap wrote:no, splinter has ethics and whut has emotions
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Splinter wrote:1 main hard drive for windows install and a bunch of small programs runs at 10,000 rpm's
2nd main hard drive mainly for game installs only @ 7200 rpm's
Both SATA
3rd drive is a USB 1 terabyte that I mainly use for storage or crap I'm gonna burn eventually if I ever get a stable system again.
4th and 5th HD's from the 1st PC are PATA but only 1 of these has a windows install
Mobo is a P5N-SLi 570 Intel Edition
CPU is a Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 @ 1.86 GHz
Ram 2 Gigs with 2 sticks 1 gig each, DDR2
Video cards - 2x nVidia 9500 GT BFG Running on SLi (currently disabled)
SATA HD's are both Western Digital.
And no I don't have an oboard gfx card. Did you make any hardware changes just before the problems started? That's a lot of hardware. I'd have to wonder for a second if your power supply is keeping up with demands. That aside, I'd still try swapping around the memory and try each of them individually just to make sure one of them isn't bad. After that, well... my typical lack of patience would lead me to a "FUCK IT!" moment and I'd buy a new motherboard, CPU and memory. But that's really just me. I've never troubleshooted hardware past the memory.
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I don't have ALL of that running, the PATA drives arn't plugged in. My PC was running perfectly fine for over 3 months since I got a mobo, cpu, and ram from shadow so I don't technically know how old/used they are. These problems have only been recent, only been having them less then a week, but before that everything was running great like it came right out of the box. The only thing I could think of that I have changed is just software updates, even then I shouldn't be getting 2 kinds of problems from 2 different drives. I also don't go into the BIOS so nothing there has changed either. ahhhh_crap wrote:no, splinter has ethics and whut has emotions
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I agree with Shadow that this sort of looks like an CPU overheating problem, on its face at least. Temp readouts on the desktop could be messed up - I've heard that mobo manufacturers sometimes tweak them to be a little low to make people feel good about their system. At least there's no smoke...except maybe that would be a good thing since it would be a definite sign of what was going on. =P Rik also has a point - what kind of power supply are you using? Hard drives don't have a big power draw, but that might be a problem. Also! Are you protecting yourself against ESD when installing these devices...or are you wearing a polyester suit while installing stuff? Could be that you're not unlucky - you're just frying your components. ESD damage doesn't always show up right away. =( If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. - Carl Sagan My Backpack
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Maybe a heat issue around the memory/general case? I had an overheating problem on my CPU before and it never gave me BSOD's--the computer would just shut down when it got too hot. The only time I've gotten hardware-related BSOD's have been when my motherboard was dying or when my DIMMs were flaky.
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Here's the thing. The BSoD problem only happens when I try to run games, as of right now just running firefox I haven't had a single problem. The problems only occur when I try to run any game. The 2nd (which is currently not plugged in) HD just restarts at random times regardless of what I run, the restarts are much more random then the 1st HD. Today I've been running nothing but firefox and abit of minecraft (minecraft being the only game that never crashes the PC but minecraft itself crashes somewhat more often then what it used to before all the major problems started). I'm running on the 1st HD, so as long as I don't run any games the PC itself is perfectly fine with no problems or random restarts. What I'm gonna do right now is just backup all my shit on my 1st main HD, unplug all other HD's including my external terabyte drive, do a long ass reformat with a fresh install of windows, then try to run some games. As of right now my best guess for failure is that its something connected with the gfx cards either it be hardware or software related I don't know. I'm also certain that my 2nd HD is most likely failing cause of the restarts that happen at random times regardless of what I run. It's only when I had my 2 main HD's hooked up have there been endless BSoD's. But only when I have just my 2nd main HD install are there no BSoD's just random restarts. Anyways yeah gonna reformat and see what that does for the 1st hard drive. ahhhh_crap wrote:no, splinter has ethics and whut has emotions
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Nothing, did a fresh install on a formatted HD. Random restart happened just like the 2nd drive when I installed windows on it. Again random restarts when I try to run any browser. IE, Firefox, even tried Chrome all with the same effects. Try to run the internet and a restart happens at any second. ahhhh_crap wrote:no, splinter has ethics and whut has emotions
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Splinter wrote:Nothing, did a fresh install on a formatted HD. Random restart happened just like the 2nd drive when I installed windows on it. Again random restarts when I try to run any browser. IE, Firefox, even tried Chrome all with the same effects. Try to run the internet and a restart happens at any second. It's almost definitely a hardware problem, reinstalling OS isn't gonna help. You're going to need to start eliminating possible culprits. Before testing any hardware you should make sure you are using all the latest drivers and that everything is physically seated (i.e. give every cable and piece of hardware a gentle push where it connects to anything else). This probably won't solve the problem, but sometimes you get lucky. After that I would recommend starting with the video card: 1) Check that the fan is working properly. 2) Physically remove the card and use on-board video if available, if not replace your existing card with a known good card. Next I would turn to the NIC: 1) Install a known good NIC. If your existing NIC is on-board, disable it in BIOS. If it's not on-board, physically remove it. 2) Try a wireless adapter if you're using ethernet (or an ethernet adapter if you're using wireless). If it's neither of those I'd turn to the PSU, then RAM, then CPU (start with CPU since it's easiest: check fan, blow out dust, re-seat). Really though, if it's not the vid card or PSU I'd place money on it being the motherboard. You're usually not going to be able to figure that one out without testing everything else first. Also, if you are consistently having mysterious problems like this arise in physically distinct machines placed in the same location I would start looking for an environmental source of the damage. Heat, dirty electricity, and moisture are the usual suspects. Razor wrote:Killing people is good therapy.  
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I only had the CPU/Mobo for 4 months before I upgraded, and the RAM has never been used. Um, if I remember correct, the heatsinks on the dual core CPU's were a bit... finicky. Check the tabs that push down onto the mobo, see if there loose. And you dont want to check temps via program, you want to go into the BIOS and check. Jeeps don't get stuck, they just take breaks. TripleBam wrote:That's the most spastic fucking pissing match I've ever seen. Good god.
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