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#1 Posted: : Wednesday, March 30, 2011 4:30:29 PM
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Hello everyone. I have decided that Microsoft is probably not going to be giving me a whole lot of upgrades for XP as time goes on. So, it would probably be time to upgrade to Windows 7, as the next version of Windows is still a ways off (plus I can probably get Win7 for free, I know a guy). I will have 4GB of DDR2 RAM before I do anything and I figured I would ask you knowledgeable people whether or not it was worth getting the 64-bit version of Win7. I am currently running the 32-bit XP (as I only have 2GB of RAM, yeah, it sucks, I know).

After that, I will probably be first dual-booting both until I am used to Windows 7. Then giving Windows 7 control of my XP partition (not sure how to do this yet, but I think it would work?) to phase out XP.

What advice have you?

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#2 Posted: : Wednesday, March 30, 2011 9:05:12 PM
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Will you ever be getting more then 4 gigs? If not, kind of pointless.
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#3 Posted: : Wednesday, March 30, 2011 9:46:46 PM
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If you have a 64-bit CPU, might as well.
I have 64-bit Windows 7 and it's pretty good.

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#4 Posted: : Thursday, March 31, 2011 12:27:28 AM
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There is so little reason to actually use 64-bit Windows it's almost a joke that they doubled their hero product lineup to offer it. So few system components actually make use of the 64-bit architecture that you're essentially just buying 800-thread egyptian cotton sheets for your twin bed - you're kidding yourself.
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#5 Posted: : Thursday, March 31, 2011 1:52:34 AM
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I just checked prices and 64-bit is the same price as 32-bit so... yeah... if you want Windows 7 and have a 64-bit CPU... there's still no reason not to get the 64-bit version.

If it were more expensive then I'd understand the argument that it's only marginally useful, but.. same price so... why not?

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#6 Posted: : Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:29:05 AM
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In my opinion, if you're going to get 4gb of ram and you're upgrading to a new version of Windows, definitely go the 64 bit route.

Yeah, not many programs take advantage of the benefits it offers, but you can just think to yourself that you're futureproofing your system! =D

Note: You NEED 2GB of ram to operate Win7-64bit. You'll probably want to get more RAM asap.

I would also like to point out again what Rik said - SAME PRICE! Definitely get it. I didn't get the 64 bit version and now I wish I had. I dont want to upgrade again, so I just have to wait.
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#7 Posted: : Thursday, March 31, 2011 1:43:11 PM
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All new CPU's (excluding some laptops) support x64 agriculture...

For AMD: x64 runs on Socket 754, Socket 939, and Socket 940, but nothing below.
All Pentium D processors are x64 capable. All mobile Intel processors, are not x64 capable.
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honestly i cant think of a downside to using a 64 bit OS. you get room to grow, and crunch heavier things better. but yes, the resource costs are higher. example: i have 8 gigs of ram in my system. windows tends to use 38-45% of that when idling. yes i could probably do some clean up and fix it more (fucking svchost.exe multiples....) but im not sure i could get it to less than 30%. so yeah, id recommend a minimum of 3 gigs (and really...thats what it is designed for). all in all though its definitely worth the upgrade, for me at least (lots of 3d modeling and game engine work).

as far as making the switch, i vote for a sudden switch. just get in and get your feet wet, it forces you to learn faster. and really, win7 is far superior to xp imo, so i dont really see much point in keeping an xp partition running unless you have things that *only* work on xp.
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Yeah. Dual boot? NONSENSE! Win7 is pretty awesome. Jump in!
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#10 Posted: : Friday, April 01, 2011 9:07:10 PM
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if it is basically the same price why not it wont hurt you unless you have 2 or less gigs i had 4 when i got it and now i have 6 gigs lol, but i have alot of the win 7 extras on also
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#11 Posted: : Saturday, April 02, 2011 1:22:10 AM
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Thanks for all the feedback guys, seems like I should go with the Win7 once I have the new RAM. My socket is AMD 785, so I should be fine (right?).

As for the partition/hard drive situation. The plan is to eventually do away with XP (ASAP). The only thing I'm wondering is whether or not the "XP" partition can be fluidly integrated with the "Win7" partition. I don't have an external hard drive, just a single 500gb HD. I don't care about reinstalling programs, but I have about 20 gigs of files, music, and pictures that I need to keep. So I guess the real question is do I have to invest in another hard drive in order to transfer my files and such if I upgrade to Win7?

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#12 Posted: : Saturday, April 02, 2011 1:52:35 AM
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You split your XP partition into a 50 or so gig partition, copy all your files from XP to it, delete the xp partition, merge the unallocated space with your W7 partition.
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#13 Posted: : Saturday, April 02, 2011 4:20:12 AM
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Super Penguin wrote:
Thanks for all the feedback guys, seems like I should go with the Win7 once I have the new RAM. My socket is AMD 785, so I should be fine (right?).

As for the partition/hard drive situation. The plan is to eventually do away with XP (ASAP). The only thing I'm wondering is whether or not the "XP" partition can be fluidly integrated with the "Win7" partition. I don't have an external hard drive, just a single 500gb HD. I don't care about reinstalling programs, but I have about 20 gigs of files, music, and pictures that I need to keep. So I guess the real question is do I have to invest in another hard drive in order to transfer my files and such if I upgrade to Win7?


If it's only 20GB I can give you FTP space to upload/download it or something. Won't be the fastest solution, but will spare you having to move partitions around. Alternatively, a DVD-RW drive is always a decent investment. Prices are dirt cheap since Blu-Ray's out... heck.. my laptop has a DVD-RW drive and I didn't even know it till the other day.

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#14 Posted: : Saturday, April 02, 2011 1:17:03 PM
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I think you can have your cake and eat it too. Since you're going from XP to Win7, you're going to have to have a clean install of Win7 anyway, but when you install you can choose to have the installer put all your old files in a file called "Windows Old" or something like that.

Install Win7 on one partition of your drive. It will copy all your old files.
When you're done with XP, reformat it and make that partition continuous with the one Win7 is installed on.

I'm fairly sure you can do that, but not 100%. Otherwise, do what Rik said.
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#15 Posted: : Sunday, April 03, 2011 9:51:50 PM
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Hrm, Shadow's strategy is what I was hoping was possible. Some temporary FTP space (just in case something blows up) would be great when the time comes Rikaelus! First step is getting that RAM lol. And convincing my friend to get me that Win7 copy.

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