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I am trying to talk myself into building a new computer. I need direction or maybe talked into it. I am partial to amd and nvidia cards, but not married to them. What about the Fermi cards? I have some ideas and some cash to put in it, but more importantly I have the green light from wife. There is an inner turmoil before mature and responsible Razor and immature Razor.
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Razor wrote:I am trying to talk myself into building a new computer. I need direction or maybe talked into it. I am partial to amd and nvidia cards, but not married to them. What about the Fermi cards? I have some ideas and some cash to put in it, but more importantly I have the green light from wife. There is an inner turmoil before mature and responsible Razor and immature Razor. Never heard of Fermi. I don't go too far out my comfort zone anymore with brands. AMD has served me well for my desktops since the K6-2 and they're all I trust. I was an ATI man for a long time but recently made the switch to nVidia--in part because I liked the nForce motherboard chipset for a time, though I'm less concerned with that now. I've never been concerned enough with memory brands to become loyal to one, so I usually just look at what has good reviews on newegg.com--that's usually a good indicator of cost-to-quality. So I probably won't be much help guiding you down any general paths...
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I myself am an AMD fan considering its quite cheaper then Intel and had already 2 NForce MOBO's. I had the 2 mobo's last me a great deal of time of at least 6 or so years before the 1st one crashing due to heat build up and the 2nd due to the south bridge chip getting fried. Its only recently since Shadow sold me a mobo with an Intel that I've changed but being unable to choose the mobo I wanted I just needed something that would work for me since I've been PC-less for over a year. If I could I would change back right away to AMD with better nVidia cards but Im making due with what I got. And yes take advantage of the fact that your able to build a new PC as its gonna end up lasting you awhile if you make your own.  ahhhh_crap wrote:no, splinter has ethics and whut has emotions
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I'm using a GTX 460 which is Fermi. I dunno, its just a lot faster than my previous card. Definitely check out Newegg. Also, Intel for the win, you can suck eggs AMD. Since this is my first PC, I had to cut corners for my setup since I had to buy every single part. Definitely get a mobo that can support the i5 or i7. I have an i3 and while its really nice, I can't upgrade it without replacing the motherboard as well. =l If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. - Carl Sagan My Backpack
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Right now I am leaning towards this card: http://www.newegg.com/Pr...-_-14-127-565-_-Product
Not sure if I want to go ahead and do an entire build or just see if my current system will work. I will post my specs later.
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i definitely prefer Nvidia over ATI, and the new fermi chips are sexy beasts, so they have my vote. as far as whole builds go, ive been looking a lot closer at AMD ever since i found out that Intel will be changing the processor port for every chip version they put out over the next few years. this seriously screws with future-proofing, and AMD is both cheaper and seemingly more future-friendly at this point. Bah Weep Granah Weep Ninny Bong
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Muffalopadus wrote:I'm using a GTX 460 which is Fermi. I dunno, its just a lot faster than my previous card. Definitely check out Newegg.
Also, Intel for the win, you can suck eggs AMD.
Since this is my first PC, I had to cut corners for my setup since I had to buy every single part. Definitely get a mobo that can support the i5 or i7. I have an i3 and while its really nice, I can't upgrade it without replacing the motherboard as well. =l What's wrong with sucking eggs? Eggs are good. And at least when buying AMD you can afford to buy eggs afterward. Buy Intel and you'll only have your thumb to suck on. Then you'll cry like a baby when you finally realize you just paid more than you needed.
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I was always under the impression that Intel and nVidia should be paired together, with AMD and AMD (formerly ATI) paired together... What level of performance are you shooting for Razor? Being able to play TF2 at full settings at 60 fps? More? Less?  Quote:Razor: As hard as one might try no one will ever be able to pull one over on Super Penguin. Backpack of Win
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Super Penguin wrote:I was always under the impression that Intel and nVidia should be paired together, with AMD and AMD (formerly ATI) paired together...
What level of performance are you shooting for Razor? Being able to play TF2 at full settings at 60 fps? More? Less? Much more. I want it to scare little children.
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Super Penguin wrote:I was always under the impression that Intel and nVidia should be paired together, with AMD and AMD (formerly ATI) paired together... Eh, I don't think there's any notable advantage to that. I think you'll need an AMD chipset for Crossfire and nForce for SLI, but otherwise they keep things pretty modular. They'd be cutting into their own profit margins if they didn't allow crossover, since many peoples' loyalty to graphics cards is different than their loyalty to CPUs which is different than their loyalty to chipsets. PC's are all about mixing and matching. Otherwise you have Apples. Because apples and oranges don't mix. Get it? Har har.
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I have had amd and intel setups of the years and i stay with the intel because of the cpu cache is better on the intels the qx9650 i have is a 12mb 3 ghz 775 and its unlocked with 6 gigs of ram and a 260gtx evga i can play anything out there right now at 1080i 60+fps. I would would go with intel my self and evga cards great oc and never had a problem with them, used to be a bfg guy but there gone now. i had a socket a amd and a 426 intel i think it is there spuppose to be about the same but i ran them side by side from boot up into in windows and loading wc3 the intel won every time. But it always comes down to how much you want to spend and build around that. just make sure you get good ram not the cheap crap can make the difference in your setup. WDF?: I found a hot girl WDF?: Who lets me WDF?: Drink WDF?: Smoke WDF?: And play video games WDF?: ALL DAY shignog: and in the back door? WDF?: She's back door compatible WDF?: And it comes enabled by default WDF?: I need to teach sirus a lesson WDF?: Oh wait WDF?: That's called gay shignog: if there is a girl there its bi WDF?: lol WDF?: ok shignog: so its not so gay WDF?: Good enough
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Make sure you buy the most recent technology, a couple years ago when I built my machine, I didn't do that (Got DDR2 instead of 3, AM2 instead of AM3), now fast forward a couple years and I don't have an upgrade path. If I want to upgrade my mobo, cpu, or ram, I have to upgrade all 3.
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shignog wrote:just make sure you get good ram not the cheap crap can make the difference in your setup. Yes, RAM. I believe it is the weakest link in my setup right now. Quote:Razor: As hard as one might try no one will ever be able to pull one over on Super Penguin. Backpack of Win
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I know the current games do not utilize it but I am looking to future proof as best I can. What about the 6 core? I think I have settled on the mobo. Comments? Better suggestions? http://www.newegg.com/Pr...px?Item=N82E16813131636
I know it is out of stock. Tigerdirect has it in stock. Ideas on memory? With this mobo I was think 8 gig. I know less utilized in todays environment, but I figure 2 sticks of 4 gigs will be the more economical way to go for future upgrades. Video card is pretty set in my mind, but I would take feedback. http://www.newegg.com/Pr...px?Item=N82E16814127565
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Razor wrote:I know the current games do not utilize it but I am looking to future proof as best I can. What about the 6 core? I think I have settled on the mobo. Comments? Better suggestions? http://www.newegg.com/Pr...px?Item=N82E16813131636
I know it is out of stock. Tigerdirect has it in stock. Ideas on memory? With this mobo I was think 8 gig. I know less utilized in todays environment, but I figure 2 sticks of 4 gigs will be the more economical way to go for future upgrades. Video card is pretty set in my mind, but I would take feedback. http://www.newegg.com/Pr...px?Item=N82E16814127565
Help a brother out. Maybe they've gotten better about it but I think a lot of developers still aren't really taking advantage of multiple cores. It should help multitasking of course, but I don't know if it's all that beneficial to go more than 4 or so for now. Plus I think the price goes up quite a bit for 6- and 8- cores. But it's been a while since I researched any of that. Things may have changed.
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