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Hey y'all. I want to get A+ certified. I'm pretty interested in a Health Informatics program my state is offering. I didn't complete my college, only got halfway through my second year...and the program I want to get into requires some prior IT experience (i.e. a bachelors in IT stuff). I wasn't studying that, so I'm kind of stuck. I was told though, that the A+ cert. is pretty much an automatic acceptance, so I've been looking into it. There's all kinds of resources out there, but I was wondering if any of you had some suggestions before I start throwing money around. If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. - Carl Sagan My Backpack
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DAMMIT! I NEED AN ANSWER! Stop bumping my serious thread for bullshitty things like Frostbite whining or Shadow bragging about Portal 2. If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. - Carl Sagan My Backpack
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Maybe nobody knows. I certainly don't.  Quote:Razor: As hard as one might try no one will ever be able to pull one over on Super Penguin. Backpack of Win
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I was looking at getting it 8 years back or so, so can't really remember much about it. And I'm sure it's different now. Still, I decided not to bother. What memory I had was that it was kind of pointless. But that might have just been in my case. I already had pretty good knowledge of IT at that point.
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Holy shit are you glad I browsed the site and saw this. Well, I just so happened to have gotten my A+ back in December. So here's the thing: they updated the test this year to include Windows 7 and more modern hardware, but you lost out on the lifetime certification, so if you get it you have to recertify every couple of years to keep it. I didn't take any classes or anything to get it when I studied for it. I got Exam Cram for A+, watched Professor Messer's free Comptia A+ training videos, and googled as many A+ practice tests I could take (including the ones that come with the book I used). I got a 876 on Essentials and 900 (perfect score) on Practical Applications. It took me about a month to study on my own and I took the tests within a week of eachother. The tests add up together to a little over $300, but if you use a reseller you can get test coupons that make it much cheaper. In general, the A+ exam is geared towards a PC technician's job duties -- think help/service desk jobs. You'll basically have to know desktop/laptop/printer/basic networking hardware in a straight memorization fashion in addition to applying the troubleshooting methodology for both hardware and windows OS for light to moderately complex issues. Some examples of questions that they might test you on would include, "What is the max distance that a 10BaseT networking cable can run without the use of a repeater?" Answer: 100m "Which switch is used on the ping command to automatically ping until the user stops it?" Answer: -t "A user calls the help desk and complains that their monitor keeps flickering on and off even though they haven't touched it. What is the FIRST thing you should do?" Answer: Ask the user open-ended question to identify the problem. So, the difficulty ranges pretty randomly. In general though, if you stick with those books I recommended, and I'd even recommend Mike Meyer's A+ All in one Study Guide as well, then you'll be fine. {pDs} Lead Salad: bike why did you change your name Jessica343: so I can get heals {pDs} Lead Salad: oh damn good idea {pDs} Lead Salad has changed their name to {pDs} Lead Salad (is a girl) Jessica343: hahah
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Ahhh, memories. Yeah, I was phone tech support at Global Crossing when I was looking into it and the questions kind of made me giggle. I'm sure in some circles it's truly valuable to have, but everyone sort of knew that stuff like the back of their hand back then. Muff- what kind of career are you looking at bolstering with this? As Bike said that kind of stuff is very support/technician kind of stuff. If memory serves I think a CompUSA home technician guy that was trying to recruit me once mentioned I'd need it. So that might give an example of where its most valuable.
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The only issue with A+ is that in some organizations its either a great gateway to something better or a complete lock in to helpdesk. If you want it just as an admissions requirement under your belt, then go for it. If you want to make a career doing something in a specific field of IT and that's the basis of you getting your A+, I'd recommend instead getting a CCNA cert or equivalent in whatever basis of IT you're looking into. {pDs} Lead Salad: bike why did you change your name Jessica343: so I can get heals {pDs} Lead Salad: oh damn good idea {pDs} Lead Salad has changed their name to {pDs} Lead Salad (is a girl) Jessica343: hahah
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Yay, help. Thanks guys. I ended up getting some random software suite, it has a bunch of crap on it for studying for different cert. tests, so I'm OK as far as studying materials go. As far as career paths, I'm not sure. As far as I figured, the A+ was just a foundational course for everything else. I'm actually back on the fence for going to the college anymore - I might end up just going for a lot of different certifications instead - but I'm not sure what I'd do with them. If anything, it would be cheaper to self study and take the tests. I mean, besides the home-brewed knowledge base for computers I've acquired...I don't really know much. I like fixing computer problems, but I know I don't want to get stuck at a bottom tier job for my entire life. So! I'm pretty open ended. CCNP is network stuff, isn't it? What about that Microsoft Certified [blank] stuff? That sounds pretty official, I figured that would also be a good choice as well. If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. - Carl Sagan My Backpack
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Muffalopadus wrote:Yay, help. Thanks guys.
I ended up getting some random software suite, it has a bunch of crap on it for studying for different cert. tests, so I'm OK as far as studying materials go.
As far as career paths, I'm not sure. As far as I figured, the A+ was just a foundational course for everything else. I'm actually back on the fence for going to the college anymore - I might end up just going for a lot of different certifications instead - but I'm not sure what I'd do with them. If anything, it would be cheaper to self study and take the tests.
I mean, besides the home-brewed knowledge base for computers I've acquired...I don't really know much. I like fixing computer problems, but I know I don't want to get stuck at a bottom tier job for my entire life. So! I'm pretty open ended. CCNP is network stuff, isn't it? What about that Microsoft Certified [blank] stuff? That sounds pretty official, I figured that would also be a good choice as well. It really depends where you plan to go. =/ I can vouch for the fact that general-purpose tech support is a good way to get your foot in the tech door, but you'll need to show an interest to move beyond it. A lot of companies that have tech support departments have more specialized technical departments, or--like me--you might get lucky and be able to focus on another interest while in tech support. I pretty much knew I wanted to be a programmer from the age of 8. Computer retail and technical support gave me a good IT basis, then I got my break when my tech support boss let me allocate some time towards programming Perl scripts to aid the department in various ways. With that little bit of professional programming under my built I was able to get my first programming job. Getting certifications for networking will--in my opinion--only serve you well if your goal is to eventually head towards a focused networking job. Likewise, it only pays to know Microsoft products in and out if you'll eventually be working in a Windows environment. Otherwise a general knowledge of both will have the best cost-to-value ratio. Mind you... this is coming from a person who has a lot of luck when it comes to jobs.
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Yeah, I figured once I had a direction to move towards, I could focus more on that. I know one thing, I'm not a coding kind of guy - I've tried a couple times to learn it, but I just don't get it. If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. - Carl Sagan My Backpack
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Muffalopadus wrote:Yeah, I figured once I had a direction to move towards, I could focus more on that.
I know one thing, I'm not a coding kind of guy - I've tried a couple times to learn it, but I just don't get it. If you're into networking, you should see if there are any ISP-related tech centers around you. If my time with Global Crossing is any indication, you can get in doing network-related tech support on Windows and Mac OS's, then possibly move up to higher-tier, more networking-specializing departments once you get some experience under your belt. That would have been my progression path had I not gotten the programming opportunity I did.
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