Spy Unlocks = Good

Sniper Unlocks = Good
Exception...Jarate. Its a good item for what it does, however I cannot get past the idea of piss being thrown around. I've seen that there are new skins for it, but its still the fact that you will get pissed on and be reminded of it by the pisser.

Unlock System = Horrible but with some work could be fine
How the system is currently working, its FUBAR. I've played for at least 5 hours without even a duplicate showing up for me. I'm hoping its a bug and it will get fixed. Without an explanation from Valve, I don't have any idea why you should find weapons that you already have. There is a rumor going around or more like a slight possible idea is that you will be able to combine weapons. Like if you combined Natasha and the Huntsman you would get a Minigun that slowly fires arrows. But thats purely speculation and I'm not sure how that would go over with the community.

Maps = Good
I've only played HooDoo for now and I like it and I'm pretty open to new maps so I have no reason to believe I won't like the other two.

New Playmode = ?
Haven't had a chance to play this yet

Overall I guess it balances out for me at a C, if they fixed the unlock system I'd probably give it a B or even B+, but I cannot give it an A because of Jarate. I have to admit, I was really not looking forward to the increase in spies and snipers, but I think the way they released a second class and took away achievement farming really made this bearable.

Outside of the unlock system being a problematic issue, I somehow managed to get 4 unlocks of all the same weapons I already had (2 sandman, some other weapon for the medic, and 1 natascha). I had a few deep conversations in game with a few folks regarding the actual way you get items though. We all sort of saw this as Valves' way of making TF2 into a flippin' RPG with epic drops, like it's Diablo or something. It's kind of obvious there's going to be some leveling up mechanic/ weapon forging system down the line if we're getting duplicates, but I really don't want that, to be completely honest.

I haven't touched the new weapons (I was attacked by them, for sure), but the one thing that really bothered me a smudge was the Spy's new animations and overall gameplay changes -- I'm mainly talking about the knife prep animation. Yes, knife prepping is a worthwhile addition, but I'm so used to judging distances for back stabs on my own that the animation sometimes has me over anticipating attacks even when cloaked.

I like the new pick up system, with a few expectations. I think they need to change it so if you randomly get picked for a drop, you won't pick up an item in your backpack. That is a bit ridiculous. I like that now people have to play the game to get the drops. Instead of going to an achievement server for 30 minutes and getting them all, or using that hack that instantly gives you all the achievements. I also like it, cuz now i feel i will be more willing to get the achievements on my own, without help.

The jar of piss is hilarious, i said multiple times how TF2 is the only game where i wanan pick up a jar of piss, and i might yell "Throw some piss on me!!"
I don't know about the bow, I was hoping for something that took more skill, it doesn't seem to.
The razorback looks pretty cool, however I'd rather use the jar of piss.

I didn't see many spy drops, i hear the clock and dagger was glitched out.
I did see the ambassador drop like 3 times, that gun looks bad ass, can't wait to get my hands on it.

The new maps look like a bunch of fun, didn't play the arena maps though.

I'm currently (and for the past seven or so monthsish) unable to play TF2 or Steam in general until I replace some thigns in my lappy... so can someone explain to me please what's going on?

New weapons are drops? No achievements that count anymore? A vendor?

I think the arrow is gonna set up for some funny pictures... I already got one of trickster as a heavy taunting with an arrow through his head! :) it was so funny while we were all huddled around him taking pictures a spy came up and killed most of our team before I could kill it.
I also really like the double cart map but I think the other map (Hoodoo?) is basically a pyro whore map with all of its closed spaces and twists and turns.



Yea I didn't realize that until I was killed twice... I thought a spy just came out of nowhere until I bumped into a spy as a medic... I was like, wow, they can do that now? I think it's a good idea though, since now going as a medic is at least doable... before you were an idiot if you disguised as a medic.
btw, I unlocked the spy's gun as a demoman last night, haven't tried it yet, nor do I know HOW I got it, but I haven't used it yet... I guess I'll find out tonight :P
oh yea, and I was the guy asking people to pee on me last night... and I think they enjoyed it too :D

I like the new arena maps, as well as the payload race. People should really check them out, you don't know what you guys are missing!

As far as the Spy unlocks go...I think they make sense. Previously Medic, Spies were 'useless' disguises. At least now they're actual disguises you would use! Cause why would have you have it in the first place if you would never use them?

Spy rapefest

New unlock system sounds fucking corny. On the plus side I might actually start getting the scout weapons.. lol. I haven't played yet though, had a night class last night.