I think that was a good change.  I think a medic should get more points for doing his job, than a regular assist. 

I have found, after several hours of playing, I need to maintain a 2.1-3.0 K:D to gain a few hundred points.  I have no issue with this.  If it gets to the point where I stay at above a 2.0, and have a loss after a few hours of play, the system should be changed.

500 pts "might" be too high?

That's half my total points on a good night now.  For what?  One lucky crit rocket?

Yeah, I've seen that, too. I sort of agree with you, too, that the weapon multipliers need to be adjusted. The multipliers for one hit kill weapons and stationary weapons are a bit too high, in my opinion. I put together sort of a suggested changes list, but I still think that a typical range of 1-2 is kind of big in a game where critical hits and one hit kills are so abundant.


Okay, I put this in a table, but it doesn't seem to appear inside my post. You can see it more clearly if you quote this post.


Name Old Multiplier Suggested Multiplier Reasoning for a new/adjusted multiplier for this weapon Sniper Rifle 1 0.5 A sniper rifle should be a one hit kill and they already get a headshot bonus of +2. A one hit kill should not be worth the same points as a 6 rocket hit kill, for instance. Rocket 1 1 n/a Flamethrower 1 1 n/a Minigun 1 1 n/a Backburner 1 1 n/a Sticky Bomb 1 1 n/a Scattergun 1.25 1 The scattergun is not difficult to kill with. It's easier than the shotgun which is 1, so it should at least be the same. Sentry Gun 1 0 (0.01) It takes no skill to kill someone with a sentry gun. It only depends on the person moving out of the way or not. Knife 2 1.25 Another one hit kill weapon. This is not too difficult to kill with given the expanded sidestab radius again and it's impossible to see coming, so decreasing it to a level higher than most weapons, but still lower than before makes sense. Pipe 1 1 n/a Engineer Shotgun 1 1.1 Across the board shotgun increases because they are typically harder to kill with than other weapons a class possess. Natascha 1 1 n/a Bat 2 1.5 With the recent damage reductions across the board in melee weapons, the bat has the advantage that it swings faster and does roughly the same damage as other melee weapons, so it should be ranked lower. World 1 0.5 Ninety percent of the time this is caused by self-damage from the player at close range and thus a suicide by that player. Given the extremely high self-damage rates of explosive weapons and the fact that this kill does not depend on the killer's skill, it should be lowered. Blutsauger 1.5 1 There's no reason for this to be higher than the syringe gun. It's more widely used and does a good deal of damage and regenerates health. Wrench 2 1.25 This is the engineer's primary weapon and it is responsible for the majority of his non-sentry kills. It should be worth less than other melee weapons because of its relatively high usage rate and if someone's close enough to an engineer to get hit by one, that person should get the kill and not die to a rogue extremely common critical hit. Pyro Shotgun 1 1.1 See Engineer Shotgun. SMG 1 1.5 This is a difficult weapon to kill with. It's not commonly used, it does low damage, it has a poor spread, killing with this should be worth more than killing with a rocket, certainly. Fists 2 2 n/a Revolver 1 1.25 This is probably more difficult to kill with than other 1x multiplier weapons. Soldier Shotgun 1 1.1 See Engineer Shotgun. Ubersaw 2 2 n/a Club 2 2 n/a KGB 2 2 n/a Bottle 2 2 n/a Axtinguisher 2 1.5 This is typically another one hit kill weapon, so it should be worth less than other melee weapons considering its non-critical damage is roughly on par with that of other weapons since the non-critical melee damage decrease. Syringe Gun 1 1 n/a Flare Gun 2 2 n/a Scout Pistol 1.5 1.25 This should be lowered and the engineer's should be increased to the same level because it's the same weapon. Heavy Taunt 5 5 n/a Engineer Pistol 1 1.25 See Scout Pistol. Bonesaw 2 2 n/a Shovel 2 2 n/a Heavy Shotgun 1 1.1 See Engineer Shotgun. Axe 2 2 n/a Deflect Rocket 2 2 n/a Pyro Taunt 5 5 n/a Deflect Grenade 2 2 n/a Deflect Sticky 2 2 n/a Deflect Flare 20 20 n/a

"World 1 0.5 Ninety percent of the time this is caused by self-damage from the player at close range and thus a suicide by that player. Given the extremely high self-damage rates of explosive weapons and the fact that this kill does not depend on the killer's skill, it should be lowered." 


I was fighting it out with someone on steel, the doorbell rang right after I killed them, I hit spectator to go answer the door, and the person I just whooped like a little girl got points, and I lost 15 points for answering the door.  I wish they would have never given credit for world kills.

"Scout Pistol 1.5 1.25 This should be lowered and the engineer's should be increased to the same level because it's the same weapon."  They arent the same weapon, for some reason the max firing rate isnt the same.