So upgrading my computer in the future Options
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#1 Posted: : Wednesday, November 02, 2011 8:42:03 PM
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it's about due for a complete overhaul, here's what I got planned for it so far

Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131642

Processor: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115224

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104262

Power Supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171049

CPU Cooling Device: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103089

My video card is going to be a 9800gtx evga until I aquire more funds and my hard-drive is going to be a recently purchased 1TB, what I'm looking for is long term upgrade-ability which I think I can get out of my mobo. Is there anything different you would suggest, maybe something cheaper that's just as reliable etc
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Unless you insist on top of the line performance, I think $200+ is a bit much for motherboards and CPUs. The past couple I've gotten have been in the $180 area each. But maybe AMD is still cheaper or something...

If you have a lot of data you care about then I'd suggest getting 2 1TB (or 2 2TB if you can afford it) and mirror them. The more space you have, the more you have to lose if it dies, and thus the more important it becomes to have some method of redundancy.

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Yeah I really do want top of the line performance for my computer :P. Also 1TB is enough for me, I'm barely using 300GB as it is
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If you're going for a long term mobo, don't go for an intel socket. I've heard that they're going to have a new socket for each new line of processors they come out with...so if you're going longer term (I'm thinking like 5 years?) use out of your mobo then go with AMD.

Also, 1tb? I laugh at you. HOHOHO.

I would get a smaller and faster HDD, and a bigger and slower (I.E. cheaper) for storage. Its what I did.
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Don't waste all that money on the board/Power Supply. You can find great deals from Micro Center/Fry's/Tiger Direct/Amazon/Newegg for half the price and get away with what you want.

That board comes with 6Gbps and SATA 3.0, but your using a 1TB 7200 RPM HDD, whats the point? Do you have a case with a slot for USB 3.0? If you get a nice enough tower with good enough air flow, you could even save money on not getting the CPU fan that you want. Save your money, find a board at least half the price, and pick up a graphics card.

I build these all the time for work and for friends, and you are paying way to much and getting no real good return on value. The smart way to build a computer is to spec out the minimum stats of what you want, and pay attention to weekly deals. I got my 1000W power supply for $89 + free shipping off of Newegg during their sales last year. I got my new 16 GB 1600Mhz patriot memory for $70 from the fry's online sale. Trust me, the deals are out there, you just need to be patient.



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all that nice shit and your going to put a crappy 9800 into it?... why not move to the gtx like 550ti its like 130 and better in every way


Are you just building off price?.. I mean shit why do you need a 1000w , a 400 buck mobo and cpu..

If your not going to over clock get the locked cpu(cheaper) and a cheaper non mod board , lower the power to like 750 if you want to sli/crossfire cards

Like muff said a real nice solid state for main shit and a cheaper drive for storage i hear works real well
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Frankly I dont know a whole lot when it comes to picking out hardware, but here's a gist of what I'm wanting:

A mobo built long term upgrading

8GB of Ram (2x4gb)

3.0ghz quad core processor (preferably something I dont have to tinker with)

A power supply built for SLI

1 (maybe 2) video cards with 1gb of video mem, something from nvidia.

The case I have is fairly old, it's an antec, one I'm sure they dont make any more, it's fairly large and it was on sale when I first got it some 6 years ago
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Gunslinger wrote:
A mobo built long term upgrading


That definitely doesn't have to equal $$$. The last time I spent that kind of money on a MB I was buying a dual Xeon CPU server motherboard with an onboard SCSI controller. As far as I'm aware or ever cared, so long as the CPU slot/socket is due to have a decent life, there's plenty of room for memory upgrading, and it has a good chipset, that's all that matters.

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8GB of Ram (2x4gb)


Definitely. I need to upgrade mine. I only have 4GB and some of it is pretty old.

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3.0ghz quad core processor (preferably something I dont have to tinker with)


I'm an AMD man so would recommend the Phenoms, but the stats look good. And I've never bothered with overclocking. But then, I was never the sort who needed to play Crysis at 50k FPS. I'm a bit more down to earth in my expectations.

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A power supply built for SLI


I honestly don't know power supplies. Every time I buy a new one I get it a little bit bigger than the last, but I'm probably overkilling it.

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1 (maybe 2) video cards with 1gb of video mem, something from nvidia.


I use to do ATI until I switched to nVidia. I don't have any hard feeling against ATI but the 8800GT being my intro to nVidia was a mind blower.

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The case I have is fairly old, it's an antec, one I'm sure they dont make any more, it's fairly large and it was on sale when I first got it some 6 years ago


Just make sure you get the right kind of motherboard form factor for it. If it's only an ATX, an eATX motherboard might not fit, or you might have to drill some of your own screw holes.

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So would any of you out of the kindess of your heart help me create a parts list for around 1.2k max <3
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Here's my revised list with some help from T-Bam

Mobo

PSU

Case

Cooling Device

Video Card (2 of them)

CPU

Memory

I'm open to critique, I think this is a much better put together list

total price 1.3k
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Gunslinger wrote:
Here's my revised list with some help from T-Bam

Mobo

PSU

Case

Cooling Device

Video Card (2 of them)

CPU

Memory

I'm open to critique, I think this is a much better put together list

total price 1.3k


Ive spent that last 6 months doing research before I dropped $2k on my Sager laptop looking into Intel/AMD/Nvidia on what would be the best bang for the $.

If you're going to go AMD for CPU then wait for a few months for their Bulldozer chipset to come out, it's going to blow everything away. I personally went with a 2nd gen i7 and I have to say its a damn good chip and well worth the extra cash.

CPU Fan/Heat Sink - Should always be tailored to fit your CPU. You're not just buying a fan to cool your CPU, you're buying a big hunk of metal called a Heat Sink that sits right on top on the chip directly absorbing heat being given off by it which intern is cooled by cool air being dragged over the heat sink from the fan. Also don't forget to buy a tube of ICdiamond thermal gel to put on top on your chip before you place the heat sink on it. This places a barrier stopping direct contact between the chip and the heat sink preventing long term damage and more efficiently transfering heat off the chip keeping its average temp cooler and extending its life. It's like $40 for a tiny tube, but is honestly worth its weight in gold.

Motherboard - Should always be tailored to fit your CPU best as possible and be able to use the most recent kinds of RAM. Also one shortcut to a better PC you can take with a better motherboard is by making sure it has decent on board sound. It's not super fantastic like you would expect from a Audigy but it's not terrible either and can last till you save up another $200 for a baller sound card.

Graphics Card - As far as video cards go Ive read countless benchmark sites arguing over how much extra performance you get from SLI/Crossfire and unless you have the cash to invest in 2 identical badass cards it's a waste. Makes much more sense to invest in 1 solid card with at least 2g and a higher clock-speed then 2 cards where you may even see graphics issues. I went with the Radeon 6990m over the Nvidia GTX 580m not only cause it cost $250 less it's got a faster clock and still runs everything on max without issue. Played skyrim for hours last night splooging myself on how sick the water effects and everything looks in that game.

Memory - Buy Samsung, Corsair, or Kingston. 8gig is plenty at 1866mhz.

Case - This is one area where people new to building PC's really fuck shit up. First they buy power supplies that can't support everything they have including all the extra fans, lights, and control panels. Second they either don't buy enough fans or go overboard buying way too many having no idea how to setup airflow inside a case. Last is the extra features put on cases which are cool if you know how to use them... but sadly most people don't even know how to hook them up properly so I'd advise against any extra lights/fan speed control panel kind of stuff till you've mastered the basics. Ive had UV blue sound reactive cathodes that sync'd up with sound and would flash on/off so fast and perfectly with the ratatat of gunfire or flash dim and long with a huge bass boom. It was really cool to have and show off to friends, but in the end it cost me like $120 total for the setup and I had it off most of the time because it was too bright in the dark and made playing games annoying. So keep the case for last since it's power output, cooling capacity, and total dimensions should be correct in regard toward the hardware setup going in it. You need to check the exact wattage needed by your graphics card and most everything else before choosing a power supply, and you can go a bit overboard on your power supply wattage since if you buy a decent one it will last years allowing it to be reused in future PC's. Next is case size which shouldn't be huge because it will become a hot air chamber if too much empty space is left. There should be enough space for everything to fit comfortably but at the same time there shouldn't be any excess of air/metal in the case to retain heat. Last is fans which are simple really, you can choose between having exhaust at the back and intake at the front, I'd recommend this since most peoples PC's face toward cooler air and will be blowing warm air back against a wall. Or intake at the back and exhaust at the front, technically this way is better there being much less distance between the intake fans and the CPU/GPU but you need to properly position your case to where there is enough cool air flowing by the back to keep everything cool.

There are so many more things to take into consideration before purchasing parts to build a PC beyond the few I explained today so if you have any questions msg me and I'll get back to you. I'm 27 now and have been building PC's since I was 11 and I can't begin to explain all the changes and advances that have happened in my life time. Do any of you even realize the huge jump in the past few years from games being sold on disc's to now being downloaded most of the time?! It's huge, and I bet even fewer of you guys remember how PC games used to REQUIRE game CD's to be in your 48x(lol)CD-ROM because hard drives couldn't handle all the massive data the game required!(Fallout Super Mega Install 322megs FTW)




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Well do you think you can take a look at everything I have here. As far as compatibility I think everything should run together really well, the only thing I'm question is the PSU, though that thing has a fuckton of connectors and is a 1000w so it should be more than enough to power everything and then some. Personally I dont know too much about choosing hardware and had several others look over my list of goodies and made a few changes here and there. I'm really going for quality here and longevity in terms of power and upgrade-ability without having to spend much more than I already am. I dont plan on buying the parts until around tax time when I get my refund check.
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Well do you think you can take a look at everything I have here. As far as compatibility I think everything should run together really well, the only thing I'm question is the PSU, though that thing has a fuckton of connectors and is a 1000w so it should be more than enough to power everything and then some. Personally I dont know too much about choosing hardware and had several others look over my list of goodies and made a few changes here and there. I'm really going for quality here and longevity in terms of power and upgrade-ability without having to spend much more than I already am. I dont plan on buying the parts until around tax time when I get my refund check.


I wouldn't buy anything you've listed. 5 months from now there will be newer parts out and the list would change. Best thing you can do right now is do as much research as possible into new chips and motherboards that can support them. Those 2 right there are the core of the machine and what you build everything else around. I'd recommend going with a i7, they're super fast and run great. Gfx is your choice but keep it down to a single card.

http://www.amazon.com/gp..._r=138FEHMFEDG5NREM7A1G

Good price and Asus is a great maker, so a Radeon HD 6970 2GB. 6990 4G is $750 and may come down in price in 5 months so keep looking for new sales etc.







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I wouldn't buy anything you've listed. 5 months from now there will be newer parts out and the list would change.

lol, harsh.
At the end of those five months you shouldn't buy anything you re-decide on though. There will just be better stuff in 5 more months. Just research until then. Oh, but then...

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