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I'm not entirely sure what I did, after re-installing windows, do about an hours worth of updates and crap. Turned on MW2 and it ran ok. There was a minor hiccup in the graphics where water was being shown as solid blue pixels for 1 level but it eventually fixed itself after the round was over. As per said items the following I think is the culprit of the problems, CPU overheat, HD's could possibly be failing, or something as said before is overheating. Ive been running an external mini fan on full blast and I've noticed that since then there's only been 1 BSoD so far. Much much less then the previous crash every game I tried to run. I'm gonna try to keep my PC running for the day and check the temp in BIOS before I shut down, tomorrow I will try the same thing without the external fan and see what the difference ends up being.  ahhhh_crap wrote:no, splinter has ethics and whut has emotions
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So running with external fan my CPU is at a cool 50 degrees C, googled the heat limit and it's stated that the CPU can only go as high as 61.4. Right now I shut the fan off and the BIOS temp says heat is going up easily near 58 degrees. Playing games I know already for sure that the CPU temp usually jumps around 10 degrees higher. So overall it might just be the CPU causing this shinnanigans. Unfortunately that doesn't explain the BSoD errors Ive been experiencing cause overheating would either shut the PC off or cause it to restart. It could be the PC is having multiple problems cause it really hasn't had a single problem since I installed the new mobo/ram/cpu for 3 months straight. Should I risk the 60 bucks to take it to the pro shop and let them see what they find or should I just keep on trucking and have the external fan as a more permanent solution? ahhhh_crap wrote:no, splinter has ethics and whut has emotions
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Splinter wrote:So running with external fan my CPU is at a cool 50 degrees C, googled the heat limit and it's stated that the CPU can only go as high as 61.4. Right now I shut the fan off and the BIOS temp says heat is going up easily near 58 degrees. Playing games I know already for sure that the CPU temp usually jumps around 10 degrees higher.
So overall it might just be the CPU causing this shinnanigans. Unfortunately that doesn't explain the BSoD errors Ive been experiencing cause overheating would either shut the PC off or cause it to restart. It could be the PC is having multiple problems cause it really hasn't had a single problem since I installed the new mobo/ram/cpu for 3 months straight.
Should I risk the 60 bucks to take it to the pro shop and let them see what they find or should I just keep on trucking and have the external fan as a more permanent solution? Well, I imagine dual graphics cards can make things hotter than usual, but you should be able to cool it down without needing an external fan. Are you sure the right fans are blowing the right way? Does the case have front and rear fans to circulate all the way through? And then maybe you just need a better fan and/or heatsink on the CPU. I don't know for sure but I've always assumed that computers kind of shut themselves down if they get too hot; sort of a last safeguard. It could be that it's getting too hot to work properly *before* getting to the point where it'd normally shut down, so you're seeing BSOD's. But that's just a guess. Hopefully you only have one problem to contend with. =/ 'course... if there are heat issues in your case overall, we might be back to your memory cards getting too hot, too. Edit: That said, it might be worthwhile to take it into a shop just to double-check other things, and/or have them look into making it cooler.
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My case left panel isn't on due to the power wires that run through inside. The side panel has this tube specifically directed at the CPU fan which directs the CPU heat directly outwards, but cause the power wires are so freaking bulky I can't put the side panel on so its been without the side for quite a few years now. I'm guessing that would be the main cause? This being my first duo core I'm guessing it gets hotter faster then a single so I never did have any problems with my previous mobo before the south bridge chip fried. To date Ive only had that 1 south bridge fan completely die on me which caused the mobo to die completely. In the end it turns out to be human error for not having the side panel on to help the CPU heat out as the case was designed for? ahhhh_crap wrote:no, splinter has ethics and whut has emotions
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The side panel being off is possibly part of the problem. Case airflow (at least in good cases) is designed specifically to have cool air come in one way and hot air go out another. Having the panel off would mess with the air streams and potentially make them less effective. It's like what I heard about central air systems in the past--they're designed to cool/warm houses with the expectation that bedroom doors are open. If you close them, the system is less effective overall.
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fuck me. Its not heat issue. Its my mofo video card that's only 2 years old. I am pissed. I know for sure its the video card as ive noticed ive been having alot of issues with it lately, mostly gfx where game skins again pop up and all my letters are simple blocks that I can't read. I took it out instead of disabling it for fuck knows what reason it still crashed it. Now im SLiless :( On the other hand im glad I'm not dealing with random crashes and what not. ahhhh_crap wrote:no, splinter has ethics and whut has emotions
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Bleh. One of the first things to do is to try taking them out (why I was hoping you had onboard graphics to try), but you can do it if you have two cards, too. Or do you mean just taking it out didn't work? Didn't understand that part of your post... Anyway, glad it's working for you now. Maybe I've gotten less picky as I've gotten older, but I think SLI is overrated. I'm actually still using a 8800GTS and I'm able to play most new games with decent graphics at good FPS.
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What I did originally was simply swap the video card slots but I still kept the SLi function turned on (to which I completely forgot to turn it off to begin with), this did work for awhile but PC kept giving GFX errors and the restarts went down 90% so I still had them only they happened much much less. It was only today that the main video card was the one I had hooked up to my monitor and just said fuck it, ill take out the other card see what happens. To no surprise I ran MW2 and not even 1 second in the game caused GFX errors and crashes which ended up forcing me to reboot my system 3 times. To which then I swapped the cards out and just used the other one and ran MW2 again with a miracle result of 0 GFX errors and not 1 crash for well over 3 or so hours. I knew when it was about to crash when the screen started to flicker but with the swapped card there was no flicker or any GFX errors of any kind. Now that I've remembered the GFX errors have been popping up abit in the past but with a simple ALT Tab would fix it right up either for good for for at least a few more mins before I had to do it again. This happened with TF2 mainly but since then it hasn't happened again until now. I still have the card in but unable to run on SLi since any hard 3d games will ultimately fail. The card seems fine if I keep it on dedicated PhysX duties. So now I'm not terribly sure if I should get it replaced or just live with the card and leave it for PhysX only. Here is now my current conundrum. I can either get a new vid card or I can finally afford to get W7. Unfortunately I can only do 1 thing. Although I'm guessing everyone is gonna tell me to GTFO of WinXP and get into the new age of W7. As much as I hate change and I already fell in love with WinXP I need to know how much W7 is better. In what ways is it superior to that of WinXP, what kind of things can I do that can't be done on XP. Simply telling me it looks fancy isn't gonna cut it. I wanna know how functionally its better. ahhhh_crap wrote:no, splinter has ethics and whut has emotions
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You'll get support for DirectX 10+. With XP you would have been limited to version 9 capabilities. Better support for large memory requirements. Don't know all the juicy details, but those two can be notable for gamers.
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Splinter wrote:
Here is now my current conundrum. I can either get a new vid card or I can finally afford to get W7. Unfortunately I can only do 1 thing. Although I'm guessing everyone is gonna tell me to GTFO of WinXP and get into the new age of W7. As much as I hate change and I already fell in love with WinXP I need to know how much W7 is better. In what ways is it superior to that of WinXP, what kind of things can I do that can't be done on XP. Simply telling me it looks fancy isn't gonna cut it. I wanna know how functionally its better.
I may have a GTX 260 ready for adoption this weekend. It's not the latest and greatest obviously, but it'll get the job done. Razor wrote:Killing people is good therapy.  
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Looking at the GTX 260 specs and just looking at the card itself I don't think will work for me. My case isn't that big and I'm pretty sure that any GTX card or above will not fit in my current case. The hard drive chassis would block off access for larger cards since the space is very limited. The 9500 GT cards barely fit with about an inch and a half to spare between the cards and the hard drives. If it wasn't for the space limitation I would welcome that card as its a huge improvement from a 9500 GT, and I would even be able to run SLi again granted the power would be limited to the 9500 GT specs. I do appreciate the offer though. ahhhh_crap wrote:no, splinter has ethics and whut has emotions
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